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It’s been awhile since we checked in with Irene Casarez and Stewart Copeland, and after a long series of phone messages and emails, I finally caught up with her at Groundwork Coffee in Venice.

She was sitting outside on a bench, sipping her cup of freshly brewed Black Gold. Ms. Casarez was wearing skinny black jeans, tall brown boots (“Frye,” she said. “I splurged.”), and a navy blue turtleneck. She wore a red and brown beaded bracelet. “It’s a gift from a friend who was traveling," she said. "Supposedly bought at the base of Machu Pichu, but it could just as well have come from the airport. Or the San Diego Zoo gift store.” She said this with a smile that showed that this bracelet, wherever it was from, pleased her.

She handed me her iPhone, and cued up a track on Sound Cloud. As she handed me a particularly mangled pair of ear buds (“There’s a story there, but isn’t there a story for everything? It’s not that interesting"), she hit play before I had a chance to put them to my ears. “Always check the volume first. You don’t want to mess up your ears! Take it from a piccolo player!"

The song, already in process by the time I got the ear buds in place, turned out to be a very strange version of “Telephone Line” by E.L.O. Ms. Casarez’ singing voice, which I wouldn’t ever have described as strong live, sounded deeper and more viable than I remembered. Originally a fluffy pop song with strings, Ms. Casarez seems to have filled out the orchestration with industrial noise and a bit of impressive double bass drumming.

“That’s not Stewart Copeland on drums, is it?” I asked.

“Hell, no,” she replied. “That’s Patrick Palma. Perhaps you’ve heard of him.”

Patrick Palma is her once estranged husband. When Ms. Casarez and Mr. Copeland were running around LA, Mr. Palma had been relegated to driving the car and carrying gear. Obviously a new arrangement had been made.

“And the rest of the band is…?” I asked.

“That’s Suffering Luna, my husband’s doom band. They did me a favor. I needed a band, and they showed up. Those motherfuckers can play.”

“Clearly,” I said.

I listened to the rest of the track, and was surprised when I heard the opening from "Panama," by Van Halen. I pressed pause.

"What are you, a cover band now?" I asked.

"Wasn't I always a cover band?"

She had a point. I hit play and continued listening. Something very strange was going on.

"Hey. Are those, what, like, flutes, I'm hearing?"

The sound was bleeding out of the tiny, jacked up ear buds. I watched her tap her hands on her thighs along with the music, and I realized that this woman had arranged, or hired someone to arrange, "Panama" for flutes. The voice singing along wasn't hers; it was a man, possibly David Frank, a singer she'd worked with before. There were drums, cymbals, bass, and flutes. The tempo was up there, maybe even a tad faster than the original.

"If you're not singing, what are you doing?" I asked.

And then it was time for the guitar solo, and I figured it out.

Somehow, the music was layered, and everything was there: the guitars, bass... and the flute, playing that silly, amazing, tongue-twister guitar solo. Even the harmonics were there. I started smiling.

Irene was looking at me, and she smiled at me, and said, "I'm also playing the drums."

"You're playing the drums. And the flute? At the same time?"

"Sort of," she said. "I have a bass drum, hi-hats, and pedals. Lots of pedals. That shit took forever to orchestrate. And then Patrick is playing everything else that I can't do, filling in, making it right. I had to take six months of drum lessons. The double bass drum, which would be simple for a real drummer, and it's what? 2 seconds long? Took forever. Getting the flute part right was hell, too - I'd just ended the longest period of time where I didn't play my flute at all, between my son's second and third birthdays. I mean, let's be honest, I'm not the world's greatest flutist, but to let it go that long was the worst possible thing I could've done. It really messed me up. I mean, even in my head. My confidence was killed."

"How did you deal with that?"

"Dude. Practice. Lots of playing, lots of long tones, lots of exercises and listening and sight-reading. I took flute lessons again, which I haven't done in years, and I was at my flute teacher's house every day for a couple hours for a few months. Luckily she loves to play - Patty Sikorski would rather play her flute than eat. It's the best thing for me, too, and I don't know why I wasn't doing it more on my own. I'd hit the flute, then I'd hit the drums, then I'd pick my son up from daycare, with my ears ringing and sore hands. I had two recitals in the time before we even started working on these songs, and I'm really proud: I played the Poulenc flute sonata, which I'd played in high school, but never all at once."

"Why 'Panama'?"

"Oh my god," she said. "That's one of those crazy songs that you know is so good it's horrible, and you can't help but love it. I mean, what's it even about? A car? A woman? Who knows? Because I'm a woman, maybe I'm not really supposed to get the content of the lyrics. I don't know. But it's sexy and a little stupid, and then Eddie Van Halen plays that guitar solo, and David Lee Roth kills me with his perfect voice: it makes me laugh. I just love it. That song got me to work in rush hour traffic - I'd listen to it over and over, as loud as possible. Turned the bass up. Air drummed on the steering wheel. Looked like a maniac, I'm sure, but it's just a great song."

"And for flute, it's a great song?"

She laughs. And over her shoulder, in the distance, coming down Rose Avenue, I think I see - I mean, I'm not sure at first, it could be anyone, right? But I think I see, getting closer to us, strolling at a leisurely pace, in dark pants and a light shirt, wearing sunglasses, a blondish/gray head, a man who if he isn't Stewart Copeland, looks remarkably like him.

She's talking about the flute, again, and I'm half listening ("I'm not the only flutist there, either. My teacher is playing bass flute, and my friend Paula is on piccolo, and Judy and Julie are there, on regular C flutes...") and I'm just watching the approach of this man. He sees us. Irene takes a sip of coffee, and I wonder: I know they broke up, or ended their partnership, or whatever they want to call it, but what I don't know is why, how, or what the status of all that is, now. He's probably not involved musically with her, because there is no sign of him on any of the songs I've listened to so far. She's still talking. "My friend Allison Johnson made the arrangement of 'Panama' for me. I've been wanting to do this for so long, but I didn't know how to make it work. I've seen myself playing it, this way, for years, but I needed help. My Walter Mitty-esque daydreams were kind of beyond my actual skills, you know?"

And then, there he is.